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JavaOne 2006: Ideas for Desktop Talks?

What makes a good conference? Okay, the quality of the candy between sessions is pretty important, but arguably of more importance (at least in justifying the cost to your boss) is the quality and applicability of the technical sessions.

In the interest of having the Greatest JavaOne Ever, I'm putting out this request: what would you like to see at the conference? What are the must-see topics? What speakers should we try to get? What are particular talks you'd like to hear? What are cretive new ideas for the conference overall, or for covering particular topics?

The JavaOne organizers have posted forums this year to help collect this feedback. If you have feedback for the Desktop Track, please contribute to the Desktop forum. Likewise for the other tracks, or for the conference overall. Go to the forums and let us know...

Comments

• for me it would be a good idea to illustrate e desktop application with run as a service at the startuo of the pc and every configurable time step makes a screenshot of what you are doing... The user can so put all the image in a timeline to see what he/she has done during the day..
  

  Posted by: pgiacome on November 02, 2005 at 04:50 AM

• like this?:
  http://roomity.com/windows_install.jsp

  roomity.com try to put in to present how to a comercial app built on JDNC/Netbeans was built, by Java 1 plans are to have over 6 million users. I won't submit a paper unless somone invites us.
  .V netsql at roomity.com

  Posted by: netsql on November 02, 2005 at 05:22 AM

• A lower price of admission so I can talk my bean counting overlords into letting me go.

  Posted by: gregorypierce on November 02, 2005 at 11:40 AM

• Spring-RCP

  Posted by: sevenm on November 02, 2005 at 12:43 PM

• a Linux distribution fully customized for Java Development. I know it is not so hard to configure Java on Linux by myselft, but.. why ther is no Linux-Java ready to go environment. There is no Window like that too, but Linux is free and someone could give us a development plataform in a box.

  Posted by: felipegaucho on November 02, 2005 at 04:30 PM

• A good presentation about Swing X is needed.
  For me it was a real pleasure to see all this new stuff,allmost well documented.
  mfg,
  Jens

  Posted by: mac_systems on November 03, 2005 at 12:25 AM

• Felipe,

  The Sun license for Java prevents most ditributions (and notably the free downloadable ones like Fedora and Debian) from including Sun Java or any of its licensees like IBM and BEA.

  But we are starting to see many distros which aready come with FOSS Java VMs bundled in. Fedora Core 4 (and the about to be relased Fedora Core 5) comes with GCJ, Eclipse, Tomcat, Ant, Struts and some other Java packages. Debian already has many of these on the unstable feed. There's even a group that provides a Knopix-based bootable CD based on SableVM and Jikes, it's named SNAP Platform.

  You won't run Swing apps on these, but you can run SWT and Gnome apps (see java-gnome.sf.net) and most web apps. Soon you'll be able to run full-fledged J2EE servers like Jonas and Jboss. The first may well become part of Fedora Core 5 when it's released.

  There's a Linux community at Java.Net that can be used to foster efforts like these. The problem is, die-hard FOSS developers and Java developers still do not mix up very well (even when the Java developers uses many FOSS tools like Ant and Hibernate) so we beed people to act as bridges between the two communities.

  Posted by: flozano on November 03, 2005 at 11:15 AM

• I think Java apps need to pay more attention to packaging, and JavaOne could help a lot to spread best practices and unite people to define standards in this area. You should invide people from JPackage and Debian to help on this.

  It's not ok to have dozen copies of the same libraries (like Log4J) around my system, because each and every app has it's own lib folder with third-party jars they deppend on. Besides eating up disk space, this prevents us from getting class code sharing and so from running many Java apps concurrently.

  It's also not ok to have each app install it's own JRE and sometimes one prevents the other from working properly. I'm tired to fix Windows registry, environment and manualy erase Java exes and dlls from windows\system folders.

  We need something alongside the Linux packaging system, maybe integrated as a new JWS.

  Posted by: flozano on November 03, 2005 at 11:21 AM

• Panels about the Eclipse RCP and the Netbeans Platform, so developers start using application frameworks for desktop development and not only for web development.

  Posted by: flozano on November 03, 2005 at 11:22 AM

• Hello Chet.

  STILL READING THIS ENTRY?

  I'd try to see something that gave a platform to stuff that is less visible in the normal channels: Anything not about NetBeans or Eclipse (grin), things that are not easily Googleable, little-known companies and the like.

  What do you think?

  Now that I have your attention, I am wondering: Do you know why the componentOrientation property on Component is not inherited from the parent the way the font is? I am writing some dynamic layout stuff and this aspect requires you to walk the tree to change this property. I don't know if one is right or wrong: I'm curious.

  Alrighty. You're looking forward to that conference early! You really must like candy. Fun things at conferences also include on-site tours of reasonbly local shops. At the Audio Engineering Society conferences, we frequently get bussed out to browse a nearby studio or two. Tell your boss to leave the front door open a little later; and to upgrade your workspace pronto. Actually: I've never been to a JavaOne, so there may in fact be tours and I don't know it...

  Tak it easy,
  Steev Coco

  Posted by: steevcoco on November 05, 2005 at 09:36 PM

• I think cool, useful, Swing open source projects like SAM the Swing Action Manager, or SEBby the Swing Event Bus would fit nicely in hour ot so timeframe. :-) :-) :-)

  Posted by: michaelbushe on November 19, 2005 at 01:17 PM

• Dual monitor GUI applications. I've found that lots of fun to deal with lately. ;-)

  Dual CPU systems and Swing worker threads. I've seen things happen on a compilcated Swing worker thread that in my 5 years of doing GUI applications I have never seen happen before. I have screen shots if you or anyone you know wants to see them. I'm guessing with Semaphores in 1.5 the Swing Worker has been upgraded to use this right?

  Drag and Drop. It can be a real pain to drag and drop items around that do more than a stupid text string.

  How about a fancy GUI where you have multiple computers and an animated GUI object 'crawls' around the network via RMI and moved from JVM to JVM. That would be pretty cool and what would really rock is showing the same GUI running on multiple platforms with different look and feels.

  Something on great ways to do GUI applications that work with Hibernate or O/R type tools would be great as well.

  I can make a longer list if you like. Send me an e-mail if you want more ideas. ;-)

  Posted by: cupofjoe on November 23, 2005 at 10:32 PM

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