Ludovic Champenois's Blog: Java Tools and Server runtime on Mac...

Posted by ludo on January 09, 2006 at 06:06 PM | Comments (4)

Bonjour, comment Java?

So tomorrow is the big show from Apple. Many rumors, as usual, many of them related to the Intel processors. So if this is real tomorrow (I am not saying anything more than "if..."), then you should know that the combination of NetBeans 5.0 and the Sun J2EE 1.4 Application Server has been already tested on the Mac/Intel platform. In fact, I fixed a P2 bug (unable to start appserver on Mac/Intel platform) last December to make sure you can develop J2EE applications (Web apps, Web Services, Ejbs,...) on the Mac systems.

NetBeans 5 on Mac

So Let's wait and see what Steve will say. On the Runtime side and Tools side, we are ready.

Ludo

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While this is good, there is one thing about the intel switch that makes me happy, and that is that it will call an end to the horrible practice Apple has of only releasing the current Java release for their latest OS. If you haven't paid Apple to upgrade to Tiger, you don't get Java 5.

This is a slap in the face of what Java as a platform is suppose to be.

How will Apple's switch to Intel change this? Simply put, Apple has controlled the PowerPC build of Java for some time, and has also maintained the Cocca Bridge to Java to enable Java applications to look native to Mac OSX through the Cocca interface. They have stated this is coming to an end, which means that there is no longer a need to wait for proprietary jar files from Apple in their Java releases.

Add to this that Sun manages the build on Intel machines, and that even code written for Linux x86 executes on the Mac platform now with little effort, and you can imagine there being a Sun build for Mac on x86 with nothing more than an easy addition to the global nightly build field on the Sun side. This means we not only get the latest JDK without paying Apple's toll for it, but we also get the latest new JDKs still in development.

Apple can be left to distibute their additional .jars (like for Quicktime and Cocca) on their developer site for those who need them (5 people at last count) so that the rest of us can be free to use the real JDK from Sun for our enterprise and local development, no matter if what version of OS X we run in the future.

That will be a great world indeed and speed along adoption of JDK 5+ on Mac Java applications.

Posted by: bbjwerner on January 09, 2006 at 07:36 PM

Why do you think that code for Linux x86 will execute with little effort on OS X?

Why do you think Sun would support another platform?

This won't happen. I think what we can expect is a server VM on OS X and maybe a shorter delay between Sun and Apple releases.

Posted by: konz on January 09, 2006 at 10:55 PM

I can remember a that there was a talk on JavaOne about the new java vm for mac os x intel: http://weblogs.java.net/blog/invalidname/archive/2005/07/apples_javaone.html

so you must go back to bed for dreaming ;)

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