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The final countdown

Posted by communitymanager on February 23, 2011 at 3:54 PM PST

We're almost done!  The vast majority of projects that have requested to move have gone live on the new site.  We've been working to lock down the rest of them and expect that to be done in the next day or two. 

The content management system (editorial, wiki, forums, blogs)  will go dark some time on Friday, and will stay down through the weekend while we move the bits to our new servers and integrate with the Kenai half of the site. 

The remaining 30 or so projects that haven't been migrated yet will be pulled out of the final data dump we receive from Collab and go live in early March. 

Hope to see you all on the other side! 

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Migration Update

Posted by communitymanager on January 18, 2011 at 8:44 AM PST

At long last, an update. 

I haven't said anything in a while, because there hasn't been much to say.  Work is happening.  About 400 projects have now been moved over to the new site, and my email client is currently choking on sending the next batch of notifications to project owners.  I expect to get them all out by the end of today.

Expect the Collab forge to start looking like a ghost town over the next couple of weeks. 

Some projects are being locked for migration this week.  In a few days you'll be able to find their repositories, mailing lists, and issue trackers on the new site at <projectname.java.net>.  Docs and files, and the mailing list archives will remain on the old site for another few weeks.  When we move those, we'll also put the redirects in place. 

Over the next few weeks Tonya and I will be going through the rest of the site and locking the rest of the projects, and then tagging them "unmigrated".  There are a couple of reasons for this:

1. Locking renders the project read-only and sends another email to the owners and prompts them to contact me if they missed the communication about migration. 

2. At the end we'll have a list of unmigrated projects, as well as the last time their code and documents were updated to publish on the new site. 

3. If there's something that obviously should be migrated but wasn't requested, I can contact owners and add them to the list myself. 

As we expect to have all of the active projects on the site locked by the end of the week, we'll be shutting down user registration here as well. 

Our CMS - editorial, blogs, wiki, forums, will stay put for now.  We're working on integrating this system with Kenai and expect to officially relaunch the new site with our new design in mid-February. 

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migration continues

Posted by communitymanager on December 15, 2010 at 8:54 PM PST

The next wave of project migrations begins tonight.  This last couple of months have been quite a learning experience.  Things that seemed easy and straightforward became impossibly complicated, and impossible things went just fine.  I'm sure the next few months will bring more of the same.  We're learning as we go, and as a result we made a  couple of minor changes in the plan:

1. Due to the time needed to do CVS to SVN conversions, the Kenai team asked to get those knocked out first, so this wave will be the first 200 CVS projects requested and the maven2 repository. 

2. To reduce the downtime for projects during migration we decided to leave mailing list archives and uploaded documents on the old site for a few weeks.  You will have read-only access to them, you'll be able to use the mailing lists on the new site as soon as the projects go live and be able to upload new or updated documents to the new site immediately as well.  The email and doc archives will be backfilled on the new site in January, and then redirects for project pages will be put in place.

The most frustrating thing for both you and me has been the request process.  We tried to put together an automated system to process the requests as they came in, but it just didn't work.  The Kenai team ended up needing different data on the projects from me, and the system we set up ended up being useless and we switched to brute force.  Next time I need to move a few thousand projects from one forge to another, I'll get it right the first time, I promise.    

Meanwhile, I'm still getting some migration requests coming in.  I'm processing that list and we will move those projects after we receive the final tarball from Collab.  What this means for those projects is they will be dark for a few days while we wait for delivery of the final data from Collab.  When we receive that data we will upload them on the new site and put the redirects in place. 
 

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Comments

migration continues

my project is currently locked as read-only, is this just part of the migration process? any idea when it will be unlocked? i have some updates i'd like to make.

migration continues

Yes, it's part of the migration process. We've received and set up mailing list data for all projects in this wave, but we're still waiting on repositories and issue trackers. You'll start to see automated notifications as the new features and permissions come online at the new site, and then we'll email you when it's ready for use. We're having another issue right now with projects appearing to be down on the old site when they should be read-only. I suspect it has something to do with the DNS switch to make the mailing lists work, but I'm still waiting for an answer.
Sonya

migration continues

Hi Sonya,

all of the project pages are no longer visible... this is going to cause a lot of problems with search engines, and linked documents.

I really like it here :) I'd rather not move to github, if it's not necessary.

John

migration continues

We know, and are working with Oracle IT to resolve the issue. We think that when they updated the MX records so that the mailing lists would forward (they should be working now, even if the site isn't up), they either updated the A record by mistake, or we're seeing an unexpected side effect. We'll continue working on it today. It is a problem for all 191 projects.
Sonya

migration update: beta.java.net is live!

Posted by communitymanager on November 10, 2010 at 7:49 AM PST

beta.java.net went live last night with a few projects from the GlassFish Community.  I've updated the help section to include information about the migration including a list of projects that have requested to be moved here

We started sending out email to all registered users yesterday with a temporary password that will allow you to login and reset your passwords on the new site.  Please note that the passwords between the old and new sites will not be synchronized.  Tomorrow I'm going to start sending email out to project owners to advise those who haven't done so how to go about requesting migration via the opt-in form.

That's all for now, it's the end of a 13 hour day for me.  I expect there will be a few more of those in the coming weeks - but all for a great cause! 

Comments

migration update:

Can I please have my project socialcomix migrated? I'm getting access denied.
Thank you,
Scot Trodick

Like many other people, I get

Like many other people, I get an access denied message when I go to the opt-in form. Please migrate my project 'woof' to the new java.net site. Thank you!

migration update:

Can I ask for a project that had been requested for migration to be removed from the migration list?

migration update:

Hi Sonja!

Is only code going to be migrated, or will mailing lists and "Documents & files" also be migrated?

If the latter, https://java-net.dev.java.net/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=856 and https://java-net.dev.java.net/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=857 are probably not urgent.

>>We started sending out

>>We started sending out email to all registered users yesterday with a temporary password that will allow you to login and reset your passwords on the new site...
I received your email yesterday and tried to login with the sent new password - it doesnt' work yet! But, using my old password, I am able to login.

>>We started sending out

The new password is for the new site. The old password will continue to work here until this site goes dark (unless you change it yourself, of course).

migration update:

Hi,
The #713361 migration request for "doe.dev.java.net" project was submitted via the opt-in form on Sat 2010-11-06, and it appears in the page "http://www.java.net/pmr-bulk". But the "doe" project doesn't appear in the new opt-in list of projects that have requested to be moved through noon on Tuesday, November 9 (page "http://java.net/projects/help/pages/RequestedProjects").

Should I have to resend the opt-in form?
(note: I have received the e-mail with the temporary password to login/reset on the new site).

Thanks.

migration update:

test replyin ie.

migration update:

test reply.

migration update:

when I click the link to get to the opt-in I get this,
Access Denied!

You have reached a page on Java.net that you are not authorized to see. Usually this happens when you are not logged in. If you feel you have reached this page in error please contact the webmaster

Pease migrate...https://ourgateway.dev.java.net/

Thank you!

I think I am late is

I think I am late is requesting and wondering if you can still help me. I am getting access denied when I try to access request page to migrate project. Can you still migrate mapperj.dev.java.net too please?

thanks
Sandeep

New forums testing extended for a week.

Posted by communitymanager on October 11, 2010 at 6:33 AM PDT

The new forums are looking good.  We've been doing quite a bit of testing internally, and we didn't find any showstoppers last week, but we also didn't have very many people come try them out, so we decided to delay the launch for a week to try to get more testing in.  If you're interested in spending half an hour trying out the new forums, please send me an email at communitymanager@dev.java.net. 

--Sonya

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We're getting new forums! Want to help test?

Posted by communitymanager on October 2, 2010 at 6:34 AM PDT

Starting on Monday 10/4 we will have a test server set up with our new forums.  Why do we need new forums?  The Jive product we've been using was EOLed quite some time ago, is totally unsupported now, and is the cause of many of our recent short term site outages.  The new forums will be more tightly integrated with our content management system.  We put a banner message up on the forums pages to notify the most regular users.  If anyone would like to help test next week, even if it's just for an hour or so, please email me at communitymanager@dev.java.net and we'll get you set up.  If all goes well with the testing, the forums will be dark next weekend, and the new system will go live on Monday 10/11. 

--Sonya

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Countdown to JavaOne 2010

Posted by communitymanager on September 16, 2010 at 8:06 PM PDT

I meant to be blogging about JavaOne for the last few weeks, but time got away from me.  There are so many great things happening with Java.net and so many cool things scheduled for JavaOne, and so much planning to be done, that I haven't had time to sit down and write it all down.  For most people JavaOne starts Sunday.  For me it starts tomorrow.  So now as the last load of laundry dries before I pack it up, here's a snapshot of what's been going on behind the scenes around here:

For Java.net -

  • A few weeks ago I hired a new program assistant, Tonya Colombe, to help me out with day to day site management and to help with the migration effort to our new infrastructure over the next few months.  You'll start to see her name around the site and dealing with community management issues.  Please say hello when you have a chance.
  • The long awaited migration to Kenai infrastructure is in the works.  The GlassFish Community is doing a test run over the next couple of weeks, and as soon as that's done, we'll start talking about scheduling the rest of the site.  I'll be blogging about it, project owners will receive emails about it, and we'll do a big ugly broadcast message on the site as well.  I know there will be a million questions on that, so I'm starting to write a FAQ now, and we'll link to it from here and the front page, and I'll be taking further questions on the blog after JavaOne as well. 
  • We are in the process of moving from our (EOLed and unsupported) Jive forums to a new message board system.  Users shouldn't see a big difference, but they will be much easier to maintain when we're done (being supported and all) and will also be much more tightly integrated with the rest of our CMS.  We expect to be testing on 10/4 and if all goes well we will go live with the new forums on 10/11.
  • We have a fantastic new site design to be rolled out along with the migration.  We'll be previewing the mockups in our kiosk at JavaOne, and I'll present them here after the conference is over.  I think you're going to like it. 

For JavaOne -

  • The Java.net kiosk and couches will be in the Mason Street Tent.  We're the last thing you'll walk by on the way to the beer, so you can't miss us.  At the kiosk we'll be previewing the new site mockups and talking about our plans for the future of Java.net.
  • Our annual Community Leads meeting is scheduled for Saturday  - there will be leads from Tools, Mobile and Embedded, Robotics, GlassFish, NetBeans, and JUGs in attendance.  This is a working meeting where we'll talk about migration issues and start working on our roadmap for Java.net for the next year.
  • OTN (Oracle Technology Network) night is Monday night.  We're throwing a party and you should be there if you're attending JavaOne. 
  • The Java Posse will be doing a BOF in the Mason Street Tent Tuesday evening.  I'm very much looking forward to it. 
  • Kevin Farnham will continue the tradition of fantastic coverage on the front page of Java.net for those who can't attend, or for those who do attend but can't see everything they want to. 

If you come to JavaOne please come by the kiosk and say hello.  It's going to be a great week. 

--Sonya

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Comments

hmm ... still no way to edit

hmm ... still no way to edit a comment here? Trying again with the link:

http://forums.sun.com/thread.jspa?messageID=11050532

Not here ... but a sister site ...

Looks like snoracle is pulling the rag from under the sun dev forums (on extremely short notice):

http://forums.sun.com/thread.jspa?messageID=11050532&#11050532

copying my comment for your convenience:

"I bet this forum is one of the most important single sources for getting top-quality high-expertise support on Swing - both for entry level and the finer points. Shutting it down - especially on the short advance notice of only ONE SINGLE WEEK sure does hurt the community even more than the neglect we got used to during the last years. Alternatives are ... not really abundant. Hoping for a similarly active replacement at Oracle feels (to me) like wishful thinking.

So .. what the hell should we do? What's the next victim? java.net was down, bug parade was down - what are they doing? And more importantly, what can we do to keep a forum as alive as this rocking?

Really angry
Jeanette

Edited by: Kleopatra on 18.09.2010 01:06

specifically: following the link in the red text passages - "new forums will be created at ..." - that's just a overview page listing everything and its grandparents except desktop, let alone Swing"

Apart from that - enjoy your trip and the community, Sonya :-)

Cheers

Jeanette

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I don't know what to say on that one.

I'll ask around.  Our spiffy new forums will be up and running in mid October, and we don't expect to be down for longer than a weekend while we migrate content over.  The new forums here will allow us much greater control over spam and also integrate with some of the new social features we'll be rolling out next year.  While I'm sorry that Oracle is doing this with the other forums, I will be happy to host Desktop and Swing here in a much bigger way if Oracle drops the ball on their home sites. 

Someday you'll write me because you're happy about something, right?  :) 

--Sonya

 

Tell me what you think.

Posted by communitymanager on August 24, 2010 at 8:51 AM PDT

For several years now I've been involved in on-again, off-again plans to do a major upgrade to the site.  This time it's really happening.  People are working on building out the new site now, and we're going to start rolling out the migration plan here once the first tests are complete. 

Our goal for migration is to reach parity - we need to offer nothing less than what we have now on the site in order for it to be useful to everyone.  However, I'm really excited that beyond that, the new site will be developed by an agile team, so we can try new things and be in a state of constant improvement across the site.  Adding new features won't be a years-long process any more. 

Since we've got this going I think it's a good time to ask you all, what do you think of the site?  I'm looking for constructive criticism here.  Tell me what is wrong and what could be fixed, or what you love and want to stay the same forever and always.  My goal here is to cast the widest possible net.  There are plenty of things on the site that annoy the heck out of me. 

Here's a bit of my list in no particular order:

 - duplication of content and hidden content - often the things I don't care about are available everywhere, but the thing I want (FAQ, help, general information) is almost impossible to find. I'd like to completely revamp the left nav and find a way to streamline access to that information.

 - dead and abandoned projects listed in the catalog - this is a failure of our community management system.  Some communities do a great job of curating their projects, but most don't.  Worse, we have inconsistent standards across communities.   I'd like to publish real standards for what all communities should use to decide if a project is incubating or published in the catalog, and then improve the workflow system we use to move these projects through, so it's as easy as possible for leads to stay on top of things.

 - the catalog sucks - our search system needs a major update.  I want to be able to search for projects with downloads, projects with active bug lists who might be looking for help, and by development activity (among other things). 

 - there's no way to know at a glance what kind of activity is happening in a project - we need activity stats available in an automated way so users can know if a project is dead or not without having to check through several pages of project infrastructure pages. 

That's just the beginning.  I've got opinions on just about everything here, but I'd like to hear yours and be able to respond to them and put them in the long term plan. 

So, what do you think?

--Sonya

 

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Comments

Project Startup Page - Dynamic Content

This is likely project specific, but it seems many of the project start/home pages have static content (with description of the project). Suggest include by default some dynamic content such as latest posts to forum/mailing list, file updates (commits), announcements, etc. This way the projects don't seem quite as stale. Along with this, have a "project setup" to allow the page to be configured what dynamic content is included. Maybe improve the access to RSS feeds for the project.

Yes - at this time we're

Yes - at this time we're unable to get many project stats from CollabNet, which is why we haven't made it available here.  The new project home pages will combine the information that currently resides on the CEE home pages (or Kenai project home pages, as it were) and the CMS pages associated with the project.  It will be a dashboard of sorts with pointers to the tools the projects are using, stats on updates, the project summary and licensing, and who the owners are. There will be some owner configurable information on the page, but most of it will be dynamically generated. 

Interlink communities

One thing I should've mentioned: Currently java.net projects/communities seem quite separate, almost isolated. It'd be good to see thought put into approaches to permit better inter-linking of related communities, like Mojarra and Glassfish for example. Also ways to better interact with significant external communities like Seam, Weld/CDI, etc.

We've been talking about this

We've been talking about this internally and working out how to do this (probably via tags) while still keeping the communities strong as individual entities. 

OpenID and profile sharing/integration

Login. When you log in to Java.net, redirecting back to the page you were on rather than to "My Pages". I can get to "My PAges" from anywhere with one click, while getting back to the page I was on isn't so easy, especially if it's a search hit etc. I usually just use the browser "back" button a couple of times and refresh, but it should really redirect back to where you logged in from automatically.

OpenID. java.net is yet another shard in the rather fragmented set of Java communities, each of which has its own identify management, user profiles, etc. I'd really like to see it be an OpenID client, along with sites like seamframework.org, community.jboss.org, etc, so I could use a single identity across the various sites.

Maven. Working with Sonatype to provide better Maven integration would be great, especially if done in collaboration with JBoss, who're already using them. Providing a standard way for each project to list its current release, pre-release and snapshot Maven artifact names and versions would be a big bonus too. Maybe generate a pom/settings.xml profile section for the project automatically? Integration with JBoss Sonatype Nexus repos would be a huge bonus.

Wikidocs. A central community-edited documentation site (particularly for Java EE, which badly needs it) would be something Java.net could potentially host, where most of the more vendor-specific places like seamframework.org can't as easily. Java EE in particular really *needs* broad, conceptual documentation that covers and integrates all the technologies and services involved into a better organized whole. Java.net might be a great place to start a community effort like that, as it's fairly vendor-neutral. This would also provide an opportunity to help people find key resources across java.net and the wider Internet from a fairly central "hub". See Seam dev Lincoln Baxter's posts: http://ocpsoft.com/opensource/improving-community-the-power-of-good-cent... http://ocpsoft.com/opensource/the-problem-is-not-the-system-the-problem-... . I'd be very happy to contribute to something like that, but right now there isn't really anywhere to start, and Java.net could provide a great neutral host for versioned wiki-edited Java EE documentation. (Hmm. Just found Javapedia on java.net. Surprising I've *never* noticed it, or found anything on it with Google. why aren't people using it/finding it? How can its use/adoption be improved?). For example I started writing newbie-oriented EE overview docs http://soapyfrogs.blogspot.com/2010/08/java-ee-6-is-not-product-you-can.... and had no idea javapedia even existed as a possible place to provide them for central search/editing.

Finding project resources. It's surprisingly hard to find the bug trackers of projects on java.net and search them, so some improvement there wouldn't hurt. Encouraging Google to index the trackers would also help.

Forum/mail gateway. A big plus from the current site that I'd hate to lose would be the *excellent* forum/mailing list gateway. It's great, as many people prefer to use forums, but if you're more active/interested in a project forum user interfaces quickly begin to get annoying. Being able to respond to forum users with a regular mail interface is excellent and really handy.

Finding projects. Prioritize project listings by activity/significance. Big stuff gets lost in the noise.

Involve externally hosted projects. Provide a way for projects with infrastructure elsewhere (seam, etc) to have "stub" projects at java.net that direct people to the authoritative resources elsewhere. Again, part of making java.net a Java information hub.

Kenai/netbeans. Adopt Kenai infrastructure and Netbeans integration for it.

Improve this horrid comment form. No paragraph tags permitted?! No auto-linebreak option? Doesn't permit b and i tags as aliases for em and strong?

  Login. When you log in to

 

Login. When you log in to Java.net, redirecting back to the page you were on rather than to "My Pages". I can get to "My PAges" from anywhere with one click, while getting back to the page I was on isn't so easy, especially if it's a search hit etc. I usually just use the browser "back" button a couple of times and refresh, but it should really redirect back to where you logged in from automatically.
 
- Yes, it should.  The reasons it doesn't now are because of the way we have four different services all authenticating (collab, twiki, jive, and the cms) - and they don't lay nice.  We'll be removing twiki and jive from the equation shortly, so this will be easier to fix in the long run. 

OpenID. java.net is yet another shard in the rather fragmented set of Java communities...

 
- I'd like this too, but I think the most likely direction will be that we will integrate our user database with the other Oracle Technology Network sites.  So you'll have one login for here and all of the old java.sun.com stuff that has moved over there.   That's the plan I've heard from upstairs, but there's no time frame for it yet. 

Maven. Working with Sonatype to provide better Maven integration ...

 
- I can't talk about specific vendors until the deal is done, but we will have better Maven integration on the new site. 

Wikidocs. A central community-edited documentation site...javapedia...

 
- Each project will have it's own wiki on the new site, and a community based effort would be welcome here.  I think that Javapedia will be it's own project after the move and we can better promote it then. 

Finding project resources...

 
- This is one of the things I love about Kenai - all the project features are a la carte, so a project that uses a bug tracker will have one, and it will be easily findable via the project's home page on the new infrastructure, and all of the projects that don't use issue trackers won't have them automatically generated and sitting there being dead pages any longer. 
Forum/mail gateway. A big plus from the current site that I'd hate to lose would be the *excellent* forum/mailing list gateway. It's great, as many people prefer to use forums, but if you're more active/interested in a project forum user interfaces quickly begin to get annoying. Being able to respond to forum users with a regular mail interface is excellent and really handy.
 
- This is our number one requirement for forums.  There may be a few bumps in the transition time between the sites, but this is a top priority.    
Finding projects. Prioritize project listings by activity/significance. Big stuff gets lost in the noise.
 
- Yes, also be projects that have downloads, and projects that are looking to take on newbie contributors.  This might not happen out of the gate on the new site, but it's a top priority for me as soon as we're moved.  

Involve externally hosted projects. Provide a way for projects with infrastructure elsewhere (seam, etc) to have "stub" projects at java.net that direct people to the authoritative resources elsewhere. Again, part of making java.net a Java information hub.
 

- We actually do this already (but badly) via linked projects.  We will continue to do it, and do it better on the new site.  :) 
Kenai/netbeans. Adopt Kenai infrastructure and Netbeans integration for it.
 
- Kenai infrastructure is our forge infrastructure going forward.  NetBeans integration is a possibility.  I'm open to it, but ultimately it will be a decision that comes from way over my head.  

Improve this horrid comment form. No paragraph tags permitted?! No auto-linebreak option? Doesn't permit b and i tags as aliases for em and strong?

 
- I'll point our CMS developer here to take a look at it.  

-- Sonya

Some input

I hosted one project on java.net but was disapointed of the overall performance of the site.
The ugly page layout, confusing side navigation with very small links ...
Then I migrated as one of the beta users to kenai.com and hosted some projects there until Oracle came around the corner and kenai was meant to be shut down then not than again. So i moved most of my projects to google code and like it a lot.

So I will not come back with my projects but perhaps will try hosting some of my new projects here if things go well.

What I would like to see.
  • - All features from kenai for project hosting.
  • - A very good search functionality over all content. This is the most important of all features Webbrowsers have a build in search field nower days and I never type an url even if I know it exactly. I always search for a keyword! From my point of view browsers can remove the address field.
  • - Better navigation menu but can be limited to the most important sections since we will have a super search feature.
  • - Better performance
  • - More blogs. Allow users to have their own blogs. I mainly come here for the news and blog posts on the main page.

Did I mention that you should build a very good search feature into the site ;-)
Ok nothing spectacular creative here but I hope it helps.
Best regards,
- Rossi

Hi hexer, We will have all

Hi hexer,

We will have all current Kenai features available to new projects. We are working on improving search capability as well.  The new site will have a less confusing nav - in fact I just saw the first wireframes for it this morning, and we've cut the links by at least half on the front page.  It's not the final draft, but I don't expect we'll be adding many of the old ones back.  

Blogs are an interesting question.  Anyone who wants to blog on java.net is welcome to request a blog from Kevin Farnham, the site editor, and I'm not sure that we've rejected many people who have asked.  Traditionally we've restricted blogs here to help ensure that the content is always relevant and the writing standards are high. 

Having said that, one of the things we will be rolling out over the next year is rich profiles, and we might make blogs available as part of that. Then we could have the community vote up content that should be on the front page, and eventually bloggers that consistently get voted up could be added to the "official" java.net bloggers feed.  Not sure how that would work, but we will talk about it.

-- Sonya

Maven repository

Would love a Maven repository so that one doesn't have to upload one's projects to Maven central.

We are working with a vendor

We are working with a vendor to provide that service on the new site.  I'm not sure if it will be live in time for launch, but it is in the works right now.  

-- Sonya

Please consider Artifactory.

Please consider Artifactory. Good product, and great people to work with.

Sonatype?

I really hope you're co-operating with Sonatype to integrate with Nexus, as they're already working with JBoss and it'd be good to see the Java.net and JBoss worlds move a bit closer together. https://repository.jboss.org/nexus

JBoss' experiment

As we all can see here - http://community.jboss.org/en/build not sure you can bring JBoss as a success story. Looks like Sonatype is not the best way to go.

Suggestions

I'm always a dreamer...and hopefully I have not stated something that is already present or not in scope of the changes planned...
  • Maybe add some "tagging" capabilities to allow for grouping of projects, content, etc into like pages
  • Can "My Issues" be included on "My Page" to allow collection of all issues (from multiple project) to be visible?
  • Is this the time for "Kenai" integration?
  • Allow for all varieties of "version controls" (CVS, SVN, git, Mercurial, etc)

Hi Ebresie, Thanks for being

Hi Ebresie,

Thanks for being the brave first commenter.  :)

We're definitely planning on having tagging capabilities across the CMS.  You'll see a little bit of that when we launch the new site, with more similar features rolling out in the months following.

Aggregating issues on your home page is a great idea.  I'll put that on the list.  Thanks! 

Yes, this is part of the Kenai integration.  The Kenai team is working on a batch of test projects (from the GlassFish community) now, Once those tests are complete we'll have a better idea of what time frame we're looking at.  I can't give specific dates yet, but we're talking weeks or months now, not years.  

Once we are on the Kenai infrastructure we will have SVN, Mercurial, and git.  We will probably (plan not firm yet) host a legacy CVS repo for those projects who already have CVS and can't easily convert, and Kenai is designed so that we can add any new toys that come down the pipe easily in the coming years.  

Hudson!  This is definitely on my wish list too.  We are actively negotiating contracts to get Maven support on the site, and I'd like to get Hudson going too.  There's no room in the schedule to do anything with Hudson alongside the migration effort, but we've talked about it internally and also with some folks at Hudson Labs and will actively pursue that next year as budgets and time allow. 

--Sonya

Hudson Integration

Opps...and maybe some husdon integration

The better late than never OSCON blog.

Posted by communitymanager on August 3, 2010 at 5:36 PM PDT

First, CLS was an incredibly great weekend.  My job is weird enough that I went for a long time not knowing other people who really do what I do, and it's nice to know my peers and to watch the emergence of best practices come out of discussions like this.  In the next few weeks we'll start rolling out the migration plans for the site, and as you might imagine I'm a little terrified of what the next few months are going to bring.  CLS sessions on Change Management were quite helpful in providing me advice and resources to help get us through the process.  So now I'm a little less terrified.  That's a good thing. 

At OSCON I attended a couple of technical tutorials, but mostly stayed on the Community Track.  Highlights for me were Anna Ravenscroft on Diversity as a Dependency and Brian Fitzpatrick and Ben Collins-Sussman on Engineering Leadership.    I know that the Leadership one was recorded, but haven't seen the video pop up on line yet.  It's worth watching if you trip over it and are looking for project or team management advice. 

The heart and soul of the conference for me were three presentations about building and maintaining communities, and with an eye toward onboarding new developers.  The person that most influenced my thinking was Denise Paolucci of Dreamwidth Studios.  She has really put into practice and nailed down a lot of ideas and processes for bringing new developers into the project.  Mel Chua and Asheesh Laroia did a great presentation on the problem of how to make new developers who are interested in working a project aware of the bite sized bugs they can take on to get started - bug trackers are opaque at best and developing a system of tagging student level bugs and making them easy to find is a great place to start.  Finally Dries Buytaert did a great presentation on the Drupal project and how they built a vibrant community that extends well beyond the developers. 

I'm looking forward to distilling what I heard from these three presentations into FAQ, advice, and maybe some tools to help project owners here to bring in newer developers and students in a useful way.  People ask me about it and for a long time I had vague ideas along these lines, but no real strategies.  It's time to put those into practice. 
 

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