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Ed Burns JavaOne 2005 Day Zero

Posted by edburns on June 26, 2005 at 11:11 PM PDT

Attending Java Licensee Day is one of many benefits of being a full
Java Licensee.
Attendees get an advance peak at the Roadmap for Java Technology and
access to the people helping to create it. My personal role in this
last point was to participate in the Ask the Experts panel along with
Rajiv Mordani, Ken Drachnick, Roberto Chinicci, Eduardo
Pellegri-Llopart, Bill Shannon, Paul Sterk, and one other gentleman whom
I didn't know whose name escapes me. I guess J2EE licensees aren't a
chatty lot so during a dry-spell I took the opportunity to ask the
assembled licensees, who pay some good dough to sport the J2EE brand,
"are your customers clamoring for a light weight framework, like href="">Spring"? Only Barry Coleman of
ATG replied, and they said yes, but they feel their product entry in
this space, which has been around much longer than Spring, is better. I
was surprised at the lack of response to this question, given the buzz
in the blogosphere about Spring.

At the reception, I met with Steve Montal and Sam Heisz of Caucho
Technologies, maker of Resin. I explained one value add of JCP
membership to them: the ability to shape the platform and demonstrate
thought leadership to their customers. It says something to a customer
when you can point to an important feature in Java and say, "See that
feature? That's us." Learned they definately plan to implement JSP 2.1,
but no plans for JSF. By way of persuading them to provide another
clean-room JSF impl, I told them that if they implemented JSP 2.1,
they'd have a good part of the battle for JSF 1.2 done. Their main
concern with the design of JSF is their misunderstanding that you
must use the session for state saving. I corrected this
misunderstanding and said that they could take the Sun RI (which they're
totally legally entitled to do as Java EE Licensees) and simply replace
the state saving impl with their own.

Personal notes at href="">my blog.

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